Tizen Developers

I mostly care of how many apps I can get from the app store. I think the amount of apps for a smart phone is the key point for a user. -_-

It should be compatible with wearables to jumpstart the Tizen Phone --> Tizen Gear ecosystem imo.

Don't get too excited, the Samsung Z was supposed to be the first Tizen phone and it was cancelled 48h before the lauch event, so... Beside that - I am wondering how good the performance of HTML5 apps would be on such low end device (or rather - how bad). Regarding the applications in app store - I agree with Steve, as I do not use more then 10 apps on my phone (and half of them rarely). But low spec camera is a problem here.

It's great to have Tizen positioned on the low end imo: the installed base will be massive very rapidly.

First firmware: http://samsung-updates.com/details/38705//SM-Z130H/INS/Z130HDDU0ANL7.html

I will buy one. I am eagerly waiting for the launch. I want to buy one, develop app, deploy, test and share my app. I am waiting for the launch.

@Olivier Nyssen "It's great to have Tizen positioned on the low end imo: the installed base will be massive very rapidly."

I appreciate most of the growth in the smartphone market is now at the low end but I think there's a baseline spec below which you wont get volume, you'll just get Tizen a bad reputation. There's a real danger Tizen will be viewed as Samsung Rex II, it's something less than Android not an alternative equivalent.

It seems to me this is what's happening with Firefox OS where all of the devices released so far have just been far too poor to gain any real traction.

Hmmm I have mixed emotions toward this first Tizen phone. I think low end Tizen phone has better chance than high end but still it is going to be difficult ..very difficult

I was developing for Bada OS since the first beta version and most of those who bought bada phone were their first experience in smartphone and most of them (according to online forums I was writing at then) hated it and wished they bought Galaxy S phone

Now, most of low end phone buyers are similar to those who bought Bada phone then. They never owned a smartphone but now Android and its ecosystem is dominating the world and not going to be easy to sell Tizen phones

The second problem is the competition from low end phones android phone even from Samsung itself. (Upcoming Galaxy J series). It is worse in India where the Indian company MicroMax sells probably cheapest android phones in the world for 50$ or less.

Tizen can sell in India -- BIG IF

1. Cheap Android phones have terrible performances, hangs, crashes..etc and Tizen does not.
2. Tizen ecosystem includes the most important apps used in India. I think there is official facebook and twitter but I don’t know which messaging app is the most popular.. whatsapp, viber, line? I think Line and Viber are available for Tizen
3. HERE offline maps proves to be very good and accurate for India
4. FM Radio is important for India market and Android competitors don’t come with it

I think the Camera decision was very wrong. Samsung could sell more Tizen phone with 8 mega pixel camera.

I think Samsung should not make any profit from selling these phones in India for the sake of Tizen. They should sell it with less than it costed.. yes with loss. Something like $50 and Samsung cover the loss.

Good Luck Tizen phone in 2015. This year we saw drawbacks in the mobile profile while the focus was shifted into wearable and TV

I want one. I want to port my apps to ELF and test them on it. I have no idea how to get one...

@Nour Saffaf,"I think Samsung should not make any profit from selling these phones in India for the sake of Tizen. They should sell it with less than it costed.. yes with loss. Something like $50 and Samsung cover the loss."

I wouldn't want to see Samsung do that, maybe just offer a slightly higher spec on their Tizen devices vs their Android devices at each price point. Make Tizen devices look better value without giving the perception of inferiority.

I think most of the spec of the Z1 is OK for a budget device but that camera's a show-stopper, isn't it? :(

"I want one. I want to port my apps to ELF and test them on it. I have no idea how to get one..."

I'll try and get one too, probably from a website like snapdeal.com

I've still got my fingers crossed for EFL + LuaJIT being added to HTML5 and C++ for Tizen development.

"There is no more C++.. :) It is C now"

Ah, for some reason I thought Tizen's 'native development' was just the old Bada API. Did it change or did I just imagine that?

Anyway, I'll take a closer look now. I'm not at all keen on C++ but I don't find C quite so unpleasant.

Interesting is the "Tizen Browser powered by UC" http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/12/first-firmware-for-samsung-z1-sm-z130h-emerges-z130hddu0anl7/

UCWeb = Alibaba = most important partner in China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCWeb

some very nice pictures http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/12/more-leaked-pictures-of-first-tizen-smartphone-samsung-z1-sm-z130h/

768 MB RAM sounds nice... hopefully enough for 480 x 800 Pixel...

Tizen seems very RAM consuming... in my opinion... No idea if optimized in Z130...

About leaked Firmware...

INS-Z130HDDU0ANL7-20141216112624.zip

Is this flashable with ODIN? Which Version is mandatory?

Somebody knows latest Firmware Version? Or is this Initial Firmware for release in january?

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all.

Best Regards

I've created a Google+ group for users: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/100386307026242080608

There seems to be a second phone in the pipeline https://twitter.com/esse1000k/status/549117068893642753

Great news, hopefully a better spec device for more developed markets.

Has the idea of Tizen for the PC (https://developer.tizen.org/forums/general-support/tizen-phone-samsung-z1) been abandoned?

I'm getting quite enthusiastic about the automated bindings, I saw that EFL has good bindings for Vala (link blocked by spam filter o_0), hopefully that means we could develop for Tizen with Vala/Genie too.

...and my other link doctored ???

Tizen Common is PC compatible https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Devices

but the PC is not a commercial target

We also have a Facebook group now: https://www.facebook.com/groups/325831870950832/

Samsung releases first Tizen smartphone in India

http://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-releases-first-tizen-smartphone-in-india/

The Tizen Store is open ! http://www.tizenstore.com/

"Samsung India Electronics Private Limited today announced the launch of the first Tizen powered smartphone for India, the Samsung Z1. Appealing to millions of potential users in India, the Samsung Z1 offers exclusive benefits for localized entertainment apps and a simple user interface that makes mobility easier and more enjoyable, even for the first-time smartphone users."

http://samsungmobilepress.com/2015/01/14/Samsung-Unveils-the-Samsung-Z1,-the-First-Tizen-Powered-Smartphone-for-Indian-Consumers-1

Samsung blog http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-unveils-the-samsung-z1-the-first-tizen-powered-smartphone-for-indian-consumers/

Finally :)

Lets hope the best. I want the price to drop more. $92 is not very attractive

Maybe february...

I hope before MWC...

"winners will be announced by January 30th 2015. "

Date from Tizen India Portathon Challenge 2014 moved from 15th to 30th...

http://tizenindiaportathon.com/

In my opinion low chance to buy this month... january is soon over...

Best Regards

A very nice video review: http://youtu.be/-JIrjNqldf4

Source: Tizen Indonesia

Developer Option: http://youtu.be/elwrXSq0GuQ

Reuters report today about Z1 “poor first impression in India” is not a good sign. In the report, one customer mention the camera as a main drawback. This was obvious. It was a huge mistake. The standard today is 5MB Camera.

The second major drawback is the low number of apps. Sadly most of OSP c++ apps not working on Z1 yet. To recode or to wait.. I have no answers yet.

Also, the RAM should be 1GB. Customers are comparing to Android devices even if Samsung is lightweight and smooth. They don't understand!

Basic commercial mistakes in my opinion. Come on.. you can do better!

Finally dear friends, 

Today was the day for me. I went to a Samsung outlet on last Friday 1/16 and they didn’t have a demo piece to try out. Sunday 1/18 they had one and I held and tried the Z1. It is kind of small in my palm, and my wife said I deserved a bigger better phone like EDGE. This is like Rs 65,000/-. I was using Samsung gt-i9082 till now, had to return it to my old team for their app testing. 

So having no choice without a phone. I went in today morning and bought Z1 for Rs 5500/- in Bangalore. Its very nice light in weight and bright in sun, fast in performance, decent camera both front and rear. Although I know current market standards for basic smartphones are high.

For the craze to have Tizen OS device I committed to buy one. My belief is that the combination of hardware, firmware, software make the device perform better.

Some of my colleagues are work questioned about Android Play Store apps usage and availability for Z1. I mellowed down. RAM, CPU, Camera, etc mellowed down.

Samsung, developers please help with apps abundance, explode on TizenStore. I need to silence my colleagues with the clash of the clans Tizen vs Android.

Initial feedback.

I think you can't run any android app. It must be agreed first with ACL open mobile and Samsung. I think facebook and others gave permissions to use the apps/games forTizen. I think it is the same for developers who want to make thier apps/games work on Tizen has to submiited to ACL to make TPK app.